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Dammit. I really want to go to this:


According to boingboing:
It's a UK based conference of emerging memes (foafy-crypto-socio-semantic-typographic-activist-style) empowered with technology (wi-fi, wikis, audio feeds, irc, etc.)"

And their goals, according to wtfcon's very wiki site:
The very first WTF, an open space conference of various grassroots projects, people, and organisations, will be happening from 11am onwards on Saturday, 27th of March @ the 491 Gallery, 491 Grove Green Road, London E11, UK.
  • Promote Genuine Progress Indicator (and here) as opposed to Gross Domestic Product

  • Discover and promote alternative sustainable ways of generating energy

  • Stopping the arms trade

  • Making the World Bank group (WTO, IMF, WB, etc.) completely transparent and democratically controlled.

  • Abolish Corporate Personhood.

  • Expose the lies that are coming from centralised forms of power (such as World Bank Group, governments, WHO, cancer research charities, etc.)

  • Decentralise all power structures and empower individuals (Federalised communities)

  • Promote local, organic, small scale food production

  • Legalise raw dairies and all forms of plants

  • Decriminalise all forms of drugs

  • Tobin tax

  • Require Total Transparencies from Government (Sweden (?) already has it)

  • Unconditional subsistence income (aka Basic income; Citizens income, etc.) see http://www.progress.org/dividend/index.shtml and from me:- http://udoo.org/why_no_basic_income

  • Freedom of movement between countries for all people, provided they accept the local rules

  • More hugs

How can I resist a gathering of smart people who list "more hugs" as one of their diverse goals?
Want want want want want want want....

Dammit. I may have to find a way to go to this:


I prefer the UK's WTF broader-range approach to NY's more telecom-based focus, but NY is a helluva lot closer.

And I really really really need to find a way to get my ass to SIGGRAPH this year-- it's in LA again.

Note to self: whore writing talents to mags this month.

I'm feeling all kinds of: busy busy
What I hear: me breathing deeply

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shared_boxers From: shared_boxers Date: March 25th, 2004 01:40 pm (UTC) (permalink)
I particularly like the last goal. Though, the question mark after Sweden has me questioning the professionalism of the people in charge. If they aren't sure of something, then why are they putting it on the site?

That, and the fact that anyone can go in and edit any of the pages by clicking on the "Edit This Page" link.
ldy From: ldy Date: March 25th, 2004 06:15 pm (UTC) (permalink)
Well, that's part of the point. At least, I think so. The site itself is very decentralized, and anyone can edit most things in it.

Even the goals are wide-ranging and somewhat at odds with each other. The various groups of people the event attracts may be as well.

I hope they all support the hugs part :D
From: stealthgear Date: March 25th, 2004 02:35 pm (UTC) (permalink)
"Decentralise all power structures and empower individuals (Federalised communities)"

-That is very upright citizens brigade! I'm not so sure about the legalizing drugs thing. If your going to have a government with laws, you might as well make things that you don't want your citizens to do illegal. It could be turned into big business with bad effects, like the tobacco industry, and the people who smoke.

I was wondering if you were a programmer? Or just a techy person in general.
ldy From: ldy Date: March 25th, 2004 06:19 pm (UTC) (permalink)
I'm just a techytypeperson in general, I guess. I'm slowly learning Perl, though!

Drugs are already a bad industry. I don't see legalization being a problem, as long as education is taken care of first (unlike tobacco or alcohol).
rhiannonstone From: rhiannonstone Date: March 25th, 2004 03:36 pm (UTC) (permalink)
It sounds pretty neat, but why is it that the people who support good things like legalization of drugs and raw dairy, and alternative energy forms, usually also support crazy things like unconditional subsistence income and the "decentralization of all power structures?" Can't we want to be responsible citizens without also being commies? :)
ldy From: ldy Date: March 25th, 2004 06:22 pm (UTC) (permalink)
Those groups do tend to overlap quite a bit. It doesn't really seem to make sense to me, either!


I don't think they're all the same people in this particular case :) I guess that's what happens when you have such a broad-based event. I think that's part of why I find it so appealing!
fool_in_spirit From: fool_in_spirit Date: March 31st, 2004 01:44 am (UTC) (permalink)
It was great!
I hope you can make it for next time, it will be 3 days between the first and the third of May.

ldy From: ldy Date: March 31st, 2004 06:19 am (UTC) (permalink)
Thank you, Pietro! I'll mark it in my calendar right now!

I hope I can make it too!

And it's always a pleasure to meet another fool on the (bang)path :) Pleased to make your acquaintance!
fool_in_spirit From: fool_in_spirit Date: March 31st, 2004 07:19 am (UTC) (permalink)
If you can I'll meet you there.
But remember that there are already a lot of people who couldn't participate, but are helping through the Internet.

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